4s vs GTS -what to order??

[Garylaw]

Yeh this is not a road test but I have watched a few times - love Thomas’s channel & content but if you can find the french road test please share.

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[RGBArgee]

Yeh this is not a road test but I have watched a few times - love Thomas’s channel & content but if you can find the french road test please share.

I was in a bar near St Malo looking through their magazines ( we know them) pretty sure it was a German magazine test - didn’t bother buying magazine but same colour car. Whatever - paper figures for GTS are not a massive leap from 4S unlike 4 to 4S -

 

[CHP]

I agree HP isnt everything, so lots of assumptions being made about the differences in the 2 cars im interested in. Not the 4 or the Turbo

For your peace of mind, I initially ordered GTS as replacement for 4S. I liked the looks and wanted something different. If performance would be noticeable better, brilliant. If not, no big deal as 4s sporty enough. Went for Cayenne in the end for different reasons (surely not for driving experience).

 

[MMR]

For your peace of mind, I initially ordered GTS as replacement for 4S. I liked the looks and wanted something different. If performance would be noticeable better, brilliant. If not, no big deal as 4s sporty enough. Went for Cayenne in the end for different reasons (surely not for driving experience).

Awesome
When do you expect to take delivery?

 

[CHP]

Awesome
When do you expect to take delivery?

I cancelled Friday but still active on app. Build 8th of December, local port 28th of January - 15th of Feb.

 

[CHP]

I cancelled Friday but still active on app. Build 8th of December, local port 28th of January - 15th of Feb. Collection early march for new Reg

 

[RGBArgee]

For your peace of mind, I initially ordered GTS as replacement for 4S. I liked the looks and wanted something different. If performance would be noticeable better, brilliant. If not, no big deal as 4s sporty enough. Went for Cayenne in the end for different reasons (surely not for driving experience).

Agree about the poor Cayenne driving experience- had a loaner for a week in 2024 - hybrid in Crayon - poor economy and handled like a ‘ **t on a trampoline’ - asked dealer for a 1980s Transit van next time as they ( arguably) handled better!

 

[W1NGE]

By comparison not sure someone who bought a Taycan GTS over a Taycan 4s would agree that extra power is not noticeable. Or probably any other Porsche that sits above another.

Yeh without stating the obvious here - the overall design premise of this car is a noticeably more sportier performance - nobody has driven it yet but we’ll find out soon enough

Actually I did just that and the extra power bump was marginal (it always is between any 4S and GTS).

It is the chassis tuning and PTV+ you notice the most.

Note that the power of the GTS will become the power of the next facelifted 4S - again a standard Porsche trait. Example J1.1 Taycan GTS has the same power and torque of the J1.2 4S.

To close the Racetex debate simply go extended leather (including steering wheel).

 

[CHP]

Agree about the poor Cayenne driving experience- had a loaner for a week in 2024 - hybrid in Crayon - poor economy and handled like a ‘ **t on a trampoline’ - asked dealer for a 1980s Transit van next time as they ( arguably) handled better!

Thanks ;-). Hope electric is better.

 

[W1NGE]

Yeh this is not a road test but I have watched a few times - love Thomas’s channel & content but if you can find the french road test please share.

Some errors in this video too as he mentions a 22kW AC option which is notable by it's absence on the configurator.

Porsche withdrew this option from the Taycan last year - lots of issues with it.

Watch the Taycan GTS review on Autocar to get a flavour of what to expect.

 

[pm4s]

Macan 4 vs Macan 4s. 4s feels much quicker from 0-20 mph, after that no significant difference.

It seems everyone here has a different opinion on acceleration so I will post just facts:
0-200 km/h with Launch Control (seconds):
20.9 RWD
19.0 4
14.3 4S
13.3 GTS
11.7 Turbo
Anyone claiming difference between 4 & 4S is insignificant or difference between 4S & GTS is significant refer to above table.

 

[Garylaw]

It seems everyone here has a different opinion on acceleration so I will post just facts:
0-200 km/h with Launch Control (seconds):
20.9 RWD
19.0 4
14.3 4S
13.3 GTS
11.7 Turbo
Anyone claiming difference between 4 & 4S is insignificant or difference between 4S & GTS is significant refer to above table.

Yep thats for posting the figures, I think it’s recognised that GTS isnt just about straight line acceleration and for some folk that like some racetex - hopefully once a road test becomes available to read or see online - this might give more insight into the GTS package.

 

[JonoNZ]

I think the Turbo will in reality still be the sportiest. In Sport Plus, it’s an absolute beast in the twisties. The GTS is probably the sportiest looking though.

 

[W1NGE]

I think the Turbo will in reality still be the sportiest. In Sport Plus, it’s an absolute beast in the twisties. The GTS is probably the sportiest looking though.

I honestly don't think so. To do so overlooks the fact that a GTS is effectively a detuned Turbo.

Turbo will be quicker in a straight line no question.

GTS chassis is tuned better and both have PTV+.

I suspect they will be very closely matched and no doubt one of the journalists will go to print soon.

Comes down to the skill of the driver and most mere mortals (myself included) won't have the driving skills to find out and so an academic differentiation at the end of the day.

 

[jwatte]

you are basically saying that the GTS has no place in the line up.

Yup, that's what I'm saying!

Of course, in matters of taste, the customer is always right, so there is that.

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