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Thank you all for this excellent thread. Question please, for I have not yet driven a Macan Turbo with Sport Chrono (so have not experienced Sport Plus mode) but does the Macan pull harder in Sport Plus mode than it does in Sport mode? Reason I am asking is that in Sport Plus mode using “Push to Pass” on a 2025 CT 4S, it feels as if the Taycan accelerates faster to 60 than the Macan Turbo in Sport mode. Any input please?
Sport chrono won’t give you more power. You get over boost/power when using launch control which all have. Sc on the macan gives you the clock a pcm app and sport plus chassis settings.


0 - 60 mph with Launch Control
3.1 s
1/4 mile with Launch Control
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Thank you Spyerx for addressing my specific question, and since we are often in the mountains and both my wife and I like to know our elevation at a glance, we will select the compass/altimeter option.
 

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I finally got my Macan 4S and even if I only driven 100miles so far, these are my first impressions compared to the Taycan 4S

Driving
There are lots of differences here: Macan pedals have lots more travel than the Taycan, making it more relaxing and delivering a more progressive feeling; however not as sporty as the Taycan, no matter if it is in Normal or Sports modes. The steering wheel is slightly different too, if I am not wrong a tiny bigger than the Taycan.

Cornering seems to be great, but of course, you feel the height (both cars have air suspension), however, I only have rear-axle steering on the Macan, and in my opinion, it is a MUST have spec, it really makes the car more nimble both at low and high speed - manoeuvring my Tacyan now seems like moving a tank (despite having power steering..)

Acceleration seems to be similar but the pedals being so different provide a very different feeling, I will update the post when I'll do more miles with the Macan - Macan's throttle is attached from the top, not at the floor like Taycan or other sports car, I really hate that.

I think I will only drive the Macan in sport settings, while I usually stick to normal on the Taycan (mostly London driving..)

Overall Quality
They are siblings, but there is no way that can be classified as the same class. You can feel the "weight" of the doors when you open and close, by the overall refinements in the cabin (even if, to be fair, I have extended leather in the Taycan and regular leather on the Macan). I also mixed the seats, with 14 way on the Macan which are way more comfortable but a bit slippery compared to the 18 way on the Taycan. Seating position is clearly different given the nature of the 2 vehicles., I can see how some people may prefer one or the other (of course getting in & out from the Macan is way easier)

Charging
Just a tiny note to say that using the Porsche mobile charge (very disappointed to find out it didn't come included in the Macan) on UK 3 pin, I can get 2.2kw/h on the Taycan and 2.4 kw/h on the Macan, so something better there.

Looks
Extremely subjective I know, I really like the Macan, especially in person, but there is nothing that comes closer to the ST taycan unless we talk 911 :). I did spec the red leather on the Macan which I love and now it makes my Taycan black interiors a bit sad.

Rear Passenger Space
I haven't carried my 4y old in the Macan yet, but I installed the same Porche child seat in the 2 cars (with the same lifesafer seats protection) and honestly I think the Taycan ST may have the same space in the back for the kid....main comfort being the height and the seat inclination. I don't plan to carry adults in the back as they are annoying....but I'll check when I will be forced.

Infotainement
Not even a comparison here, Macan is way faster and more reactive, I also love the ambient lights used to signal many operations, I wish the Taycan had the same. The Play Store with Youtube, Amazon Music, Podcast apps and a few games is really good, I hope developers will push more apps there. With Android Auto connected the Macan driver's display can show the full map with all info + directions (only thing available on the Taycan) which is also great.

Range
Too early and also the Macan got out from the dealership under the snow ( !!!), however as of today with 80% charge my Taycan (performance battery+) is quoting 185miles, the Macan 235miles. Probably too early to judge, but Macan is a clear winner

Other Options
I have the pano roof on both, on the Taycan I thought it was a must option and while I still like it a lot, as a driver I don't really have any benefits from it, waaay better valuable option in the Macan with the options to cover it from the inside and to open it...

I am disappointed the removed the "auto-regen" mode on the Macan, as I always use that on the Taycan so I can mix and match the smooth sailing with regen when there is a car in front.

The Macan central console is also much better, however the armrest not being adjustable in length is a bit annoying (especially for not-so-tall people)

Overall I am super happy with both cars, but I can't see how people are swapping one for the other :)

20241121_114512.jpg
the "Missing" auto-regen in the Macan is "mapped" to the "diamond" button - it's not missing - it's just assigned to the diamond button - or if you're using diamond button for something else - it's software button on the PCM screen

great review BTW - I agree with all of it!

Wife and I are very happy with our Macan - easier to get in/out of vs. the low Taycan - Taycan's a great sports sedan - Macan is a great mid-sized SUV
 

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The biggest problem with buying a Taycan is you're going to get absolutely destroyed on residual. You'd be lucky to get 45% of MSRP two years from now, even with very low mileage.

Want to trade it in to a Porsche dealership? They don't want to touch Taycans. The three dealerships here offered me 35% MSRP for my barely 3 year old, 18k mile, CPO Turbo S. Ended up getting to 45% through Rivian w tax credit.

I don't think the Macan will hold up super well but it will certainly outperform the Taycan. Electric SUVs are far more popular than large Electric sedans.

Owning a Macan for 2 or 3 years could very well cost you $50,000 less than an equivalent Taycan trim/spec.

On a side note, one thing I noticed about the electric Macan is it seems far easier to slide out the back vs the Taycan. I'm excited to test that out. The Taycan has such high tolerances it felt like you had to really go crazy to get a little slide in. Between that & the smaller size I think it'll be a more fun car for zipping around town.
 
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I finally got my Macan 4S and even if I only driven 100miles so far, these are my first impressions compared to the Taycan 4S

Driving
There are lots of differences here: Macan pedals have lots more travel than the Taycan, making it more relaxing and delivering a more progressive feeling; however not as sporty as the Taycan, no matter if it is in Normal or Sports modes. The steering wheel is slightly different too, if I am not wrong a tiny bigger than the Taycan.

Cornering seems to be great, but of course, you feel the height (both cars have air suspension), however, I only have rear-axle steering on the Macan, and in my opinion, it is a MUST have spec, it really makes the car more nimble both at low and high speed - manoeuvring my Tacyan now seems like moving a tank (despite having power steering..)

Acceleration seems to be similar but the pedals being so different provide a very different feeling, I will update the post when I'll do more miles with the Macan - Macan's throttle is attached from the top, not at the floor like Taycan or other sports car, I really hate that.

I think I will only drive the Macan in sport settings, while I usually stick to normal on the Taycan (mostly London driving..)

Overall Quality
They are siblings, but there is no way that can be classified as the same class. You can feel the "weight" of the doors when you open and close, by the overall refinements in the cabin (even if, to be fair, I have extended leather in the Taycan and regular leather on the Macan). I also mixed the seats, with 14 way on the Macan which are way more comfortable but a bit slippery compared to the 18 way on the Taycan. Seating position is clearly different given the nature of the 2 vehicles., I can see how some people may prefer one or the other (of course getting in & out from the Macan is way easier)

Charging
Just a tiny note to say that using the Porsche mobile charge (very disappointed to find out it didn't come included in the Macan) on UK 3 pin, I can get 2.2kw/h on the Taycan and 2.4 kw/h on the Macan, so something better there.

Looks
Extremely subjective I know, I really like the Macan, especially in person, but there is nothing that comes closer to the ST taycan unless we talk 911 :). I did spec the red leather on the Macan which I love and now it makes my Taycan black interiors a bit sad.

Rear Passenger Space
I haven't carried my 4y old in the Macan yet, but I installed the same Porche child seat in the 2 cars (with the same lifesafer seats protection) and honestly I think the Taycan ST may have the same space in the back for the kid....main comfort being the height and the seat inclination. I don't plan to carry adults in the back as they are annoying....but I'll check when I will be forced.

Infotainement
Not even a comparison here, Macan is way faster and more reactive, I also love the ambient lights used to signal many operations, I wish the Taycan had the same. The Play Store with Youtube, Amazon Music, Podcast apps and a few games is really good, I hope developers will push more apps there. With Android Auto connected the Macan driver's display can show the full map with all info + directions (only thing available on the Taycan) which is also great.

Range
Too early and also the Macan got out from the dealership under the snow ( !!!), however as of today with 80% charge my Taycan (performance battery+) is quoting 185miles, the Macan 235miles. Probably too early to judge, but Macan is a clear winner

Other Options
I have the pano roof on both, on the Taycan I thought it was a must option and while I still like it a lot, as a driver I don't really have any benefits from it, waaay better valuable option in the Macan with the options to cover it from the inside and to open it...

I am disappointed the removed the "auto-regen" mode on the Macan, as I always use that on the Taycan so I can mix and match the smooth sailing with regen when there is a car in front.

The Macan central console is also much better, however the armrest not being adjustable in length is a bit annoying (especially for not-so-tall people)

Overall I am super happy with both cars, but I can't see how people are swapping one for the other :)

20241121_114512.jpg
 

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I finally got my Macan 4S and even if I only driven 100miles so far, these are my first impressions compared to the Taycan 4S

Driving
There are lots of differences here: Macan pedals have lots more travel than the Taycan, making it more relaxing and delivering a more progressive feeling; however not as sporty as the Taycan, no matter if it is in Normal or Sports modes. The steering wheel is slightly different too, if I am not wrong a tiny bigger than the Taycan.

Cornering seems to be great, but of course, you feel the height (both cars have air suspension), however, I only have rear-axle steering on the Macan, and in my opinion, it is a MUST have spec, it really makes the car more nimble both at low and high speed - manoeuvring my Tacyan now seems like moving a tank (despite having power steering..)

Acceleration seems to be similar but the pedals being so different provide a very different feeling, I will update the post when I'll do more miles with the Macan - Macan's throttle is attached from the top, not at the floor like Taycan or other sports car, I really hate that.

I think I will only drive the Macan in sport settings, while I usually stick to normal on the Taycan (mostly London driving..)

Overall Quality
They are siblings, but there is no way that can be classified as the same class. You can feel the "weight" of the doors when you open and close, by the overall refinements in the cabin (even if, to be fair, I have extended leather in the Taycan and regular leather on the Macan). I also mixed the seats, with 14 way on the Macan which are way more comfortable but a bit slippery compared to the 18 way on the Taycan. Seating position is clearly different given the nature of the 2 vehicles., I can see how some people may prefer one or the other (of course getting in & out from the Macan is way easier)

Charging
Just a tiny note to say that using the Porsche mobile charge (very disappointed to find out it didn't come included in the Macan) on UK 3 pin, I can get 2.2kw/h on the Taycan and 2.4 kw/h on the Macan, so something better there.

Looks
Extremely subjective I know, I really like the Macan, especially in person, but there is nothing that comes closer to the ST taycan unless we talk 911 :). I did spec the red leather on the Macan which I love and now it makes my Taycan black interiors a bit sad.

Rear Passenger Space
I haven't carried my 4y old in the Macan yet, but I installed the same Porche child seat in the 2 cars (with the same lifesafer seats protection) and honestly I think the Taycan ST may have the same space in the back for the kid....main comfort being the height and the seat inclination. I don't plan to carry adults in the back as they are annoying....but I'll check when I will be forced.

Infotainement
Not even a comparison here, Macan is way faster and more reactive, I also love the ambient lights used to signal many operations, I wish the Taycan had the same. The Play Store with Youtube, Amazon Music, Podcast apps and a few games is really good, I hope developers will push more apps there. With Android Auto connected the Macan driver's display can show the full map with all info + directions (only thing available on the Taycan) which is also great.

Range
Too early and also the Macan got out from the dealership under the snow ( !!!), however as of today with 80% charge my Taycan (performance battery+) is quoting 185miles, the Macan 235miles. Probably too early to judge, but Macan is a clear winner

Other Options
I have the pano roof on both, on the Taycan I thought it was a must option and while I still like it a lot, as a driver I don't really have any benefits from it, waaay better valuable option in the Macan with the options to cover it from the inside and to open it...

I am disappointed the removed the "auto-regen" mode on the Macan, as I always use that on the Taycan so I can mix and match the smooth sailing with regen when there is a car in front.

The Macan central console is also much better, however the armrest not being adjustable in length is a bit annoying (especially for not-so-tall people)

Overall I am super happy with both cars, but I can't see how people are swapping one for the other :)

20241121_114512.jpg
Clearly range will be better given the larger battery. A more apples to apples comparison would be with the J2 Taycan which has the same increased capacity battery.

50 miles additional range isn't really game changing and also makes the WLTP range data simply laughable.
 

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Two other ”advantage Taycan” metrics are the comparative Taycan weighs less and has a CD of 0.22 instead of 0.25. Those and its larger battery will apples-to-apples (weather, road conditions, etc) result in greater Taycan range. Of course as most of us experience daily, range is not the be all and end all, i.e., there are clear functional and cost winners for the Macan.
 

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Taycan actually still has driver configurable regen off/on/auto modes where Macan EV does not.
I'm struggling to understand what you mean. You can choose to have regen on or off on the Macan.

EDIT: I've now seen your reply in the Taycan forum. I understand you mean there is no "auto" regen mode.


the "Missing" auto-regen in the Macan is "mapped" to the "diamond" button - it's not missing - it's just assigned to the diamond button - or if you're using diamond button for something else - it's software button on the PCM screen
This is wrong.

The J1 Taycan had two buttons on the left-side of the steering wheel. A regen mode selector and a diamond button. On the J2 Taycan and the Macan, the regen button has been replaced by a "next track" button.

Saying you can "map" the regen button to the diamond button and say "it's not missing" is demonstrably wrong.
 
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Thank you Spyerx for addressing my specific question, and since we are often in the mountains and both my wife and I like to know our elevation at a glance, we will select the compass/altimeter option.
I just want to make sure you are aware: one of the display options for the right hand "tube" in the ip is user configurable, and gps altitude is one of the display options (I do have that configured and it seems to be reasonably accurate...I am guessing it would match the altimeter if the car were so specced. )
 
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Clearly range will be better given the larger battery. A more apples to apples comparison would be with the J2 Taycan which has the same increased capacity battery.

50 miles additional range isn't really game changing and also makes the WLTP range data simply laughable.
Yes I agree, but I am not planning to change the Taycan for a more accurate post...sorry 😅
 
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the "Missing" auto-regen in the Macan is "mapped" to the "diamond" button - it's not missing - it's just assigned to the diamond button - or if you're using diamond button for something else - it's software button on the PCM screen

great review BTW - I agree with all of it!

Wife and I are very happy with our Macan - easier to get in/out of vs. the low Taycan - Taycan's a great sports sedan - Macan is a great mid-sized SUV
So let me try to clarify...

On the Macan regen can be ON or OFF , regardless if it is mapped to a button or not.

On the Taycan J1 there are 3 options, ON, AUTO (long press on the dedicated button) or OFF.

The AUTO settings only slows down the car when there is another car in front, on empty road it keeps coasting like it was OFF.
 

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I finally got my Macan 4S and even if I only driven 100miles so far, these are my first impressions compared to the Taycan 4S

Driving
There are lots of differences here: Macan pedals have lots more travel than the Taycan, making it more relaxing and delivering a more progressive feeling; however not as sporty as the Taycan, no matter if it is in Normal or Sports modes. The steering wheel is slightly different too, if I am not wrong a tiny bigger than the Taycan.

Cornering seems to be great, but of course, you feel the height (both cars have air suspension), however, I only have rear-axle steering on the Macan, and in my opinion, it is a MUST have spec, it really makes the car more nimble both at low and high speed - manoeuvring my Tacyan now seems like moving a tank (despite having power steering..)

Acceleration seems to be similar but the pedals being so different provide a very different feeling, I will update the post when I'll do more miles with the Macan - Macan's throttle is attached from the top, not at the floor like Taycan or other sports car, I really hate that.

I think I will only drive the Macan in sport settings, while I usually stick to normal on the Taycan (mostly London driving..)

Overall Quality
They are siblings, but there is no way that can be classified as the same class. You can feel the "weight" of the doors when you open and close, by the overall refinements in the cabin (even if, to be fair, I have extended leather in the Taycan and regular leather on the Macan). I also mixed the seats, with 14 way on the Macan which are way more comfortable but a bit slippery compared to the 18 way on the Taycan. Seating position is clearly different given the nature of the 2 vehicles., I can see how some people may prefer one or the other (of course getting in & out from the Macan is way easier)

Charging
Just a tiny note to say that using the Porsche mobile charge (very disappointed to find out it didn't come included in the Macan) on UK 3 pin, I can get 2.2kw/h on the Taycan and 2.4 kw/h on the Macan, so something better there.

Looks
Extremely subjective I know, I really like the Macan, especially in person, but there is nothing that comes closer to the ST taycan unless we talk 911 :). I did spec the red leather on the Macan which I love and now it makes my Taycan black interiors a bit sad.

Rear Passenger Space
I haven't carried my 4y old in the Macan yet, but I installed the same Porche child seat in the 2 cars (with the same lifesafer seats protection) and honestly I think the Taycan ST may have the same space in the back for the kid....main comfort being the height and the seat inclination. I don't plan to carry adults in the back as they are annoying....but I'll check when I will be forced.

Infotainement
Not even a comparison here, Macan is way faster and more reactive, I also love the ambient lights used to signal many operations, I wish the Taycan had the same. The Play Store with Youtube, Amazon Music, Podcast apps and a few games is really good, I hope developers will push more apps there. With Android Auto connected the Macan driver's display can show the full map with all info + directions (only thing available on the Taycan) which is also great.

Range
Too early and also the Macan got out from the dealership under the snow ( !!!), however as of today with 80% charge my Taycan (performance battery+) is quoting 185miles, the Macan 235miles. Probably too early to judge, but Macan is a clear winner

Other Options
I have the pano roof on both, on the Taycan I thought it was a must option and while I still like it a lot, as a driver I don't really have any benefits from it, waaay better valuable option in the Macan with the options to cover it from the inside and to open it...

I am disappointed the removed the "auto-regen" mode on the Macan, as I always use that on the Taycan so I can mix and match the smooth sailing with regen when there is a car in front.

The Macan central console is also much better, however the armrest not being adjustable in length is a bit annoying (especially for not-so-tall people)

Overall I am super happy with both cars, but I can't see how people are swapping one for the other :)

20241121_114512.jpg
Do you have HUD? trying to find info if Android Auto integrate into the HUD!
 
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Do you have HUD? trying to find info if Android Auto integrate into the HUD!
No sorry...I had it in my previous 2 cars and I couldn't justify the cost for what it adds to the driving exp
 

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Just to really spice up this thread.. looks wise I'd go..
1) Taycan Sedan
(By a mile)
2) Electric Macan
3) Taycan Sports Turismo
4) Taycan Cross Turismo

I actually like sport wagons but something about the Taycan wagon doesn't work for me. It ends up looking too round, too egg shaped for me. Maybe it's just because it takes an absolutely beautiful car and makes it, well, less so.

I like the RS6 and Panamera Turismo, but neither one of those are changing beautiful cars. Both also just feel more squared off and proportionate to me.

It's why I never considered a Taycan CT, even though it would almost certainly be my go to car otherwise.
 

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Just to really spice up this thread.. looks wise I'd go..
1) Taycan Sedan
(By a mile)
2) Electric Macan
3) Taycan Sports Turismo
4) Taycan Cross Turismo

I actually like sport wagons but something about the Taycan wagon doesn't work for me. It ends up looking too round, too egg shaped for me. Maybe it's just because it takes an absolutely beautiful car and makes it, well, less so.

I like the RS6 and Panamera Turismo, but neither one of those are changing beautiful cars. Both also just feel more squared off and proportionate to me.

It's why I never considered a Taycan CT, even though it would almost certainly be my go to car otherwise.
What kinda eggs do you have in your region??
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