Will you trade in your Macan electric for a Cayenne electric?

[taycanstuff]

Answering the original question - unlikely the Macan is big enough and handles well enough. I'm sure Porsche will work their same magical driving experience to the Cayenne but don't need the extra space.

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[daveo4EV]

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2026-lucid-gravity-grand-touring-first-test-review

$123,xxx _FULLY_ optioned…

the Gravity distinguishes itself with its striking handling balance, grip, and precise communication. It’s a strange world we live in when a nearly 6,100-pound SUV rotates reliably off throttle then transitions into controlled oversteer with more ease than some supercars

For perspective, Porsche’s smaller and 600-pound-lighter Macan Turbo Electric is quicker on the figure eight by 0.6 second. And so is the utterly unrewarding Mercedes-AMG EQE SUV, at 24.1 seconds. But despite its higher limits, even the Macan lacks the Gravity’s superb edge-of-grip balance.

Has Lucid moved the needle with the Gravity? Is it a breakthrough SUV? In some ways, yes. Few vehicles—and probably no electric SUVs—are as dynamically sound or rewarding to drive hard. And its packaging is a godsend for domestic users, with a seat design that stands out in a segment where use of space is among the most important attributes.

 

[USMA81]

Both Lucid and Rivian have some compelling technogies, but I’m leery of their long-term financial prospects. Also, I think it’s easier for legacy companies to get the total vehicle design dialed in faster than the upstarts (even if the upstarts do a better job on software, or in certain other areas). As an example, I think Rivian still struggles to get high marks for vehicle build quality. The legacy companies just have much deeper vehicle dynamics experience and deeper pockets. Similarly, the Chinese lack the same design legacy, but they at least can throw 10x the number of engineers at a problem. Cadillac, Mercedes or Porsche would be higher on my list versus upstarts. Not looking to pick a fight or change the topic too much; just my opinion.

On the other hand, all the legacy brands seem to be struggling to get the “new-to-them” things right (e.g., EV software). At least we aren’t dealing with major, catastrophic issues like battery recalls, electric motor failures, etc. (so far). That they got those major things right is, I think, due to Porsche’s larger engineering resources. And yes, Porsche has had a terrible design experience with Cariad, and so even the big companies can screw up. Ye places yer bets, ye takes yer chances…

 

[Fun TC Driving]

Hopefully ten years from now we look back with a mixture of feeling like pioneers in the EV wilderness, with several brands then having totally reliable, exciting to drive, reasonably-priced, 400 mile real range, with several options for us to choose from.

 

[Wivenhoe]

I visit the Taycan forum, there are many on there that would say there have been major failures on battery technology. I totally agree with your other points. A recent owners reliability survey put MG as the least reliable manufacturer with the greatest number of defects - admittedly that includes their ICE cars. I do wonder how owners with warranty issues on Chinese cars will fare with the myriad of different dealers and service teams.

I say this as I stupidly bought a new Lexus RZ 450e in 2023 - the dealership had no experience with EV’s and everything had to keep going back to Japan for resolution. I suspect the Chinese car dealers will have the same issues. Porsche have great experience of fault resolution on EV’s due to the Taycan !

 

[FirstEV]

I visit the Taycan forum, there are many on there that would say there have been major failures on battery technology. I totally agree with your other points. A recent owners reliability survey put MG as the least reliable manufacturer with the greatest number of defects - admittedly that includes their ICE cars. I do wonder how owners with warranty issues on Chinese cars will fare with the myriad of different dealers and service teams.

I say this as I stupidly bought a new Lexus RZ 450e in 2023 - the dealership had no experience with EV’s and everything had to keep going back to Japan for resolution. I suspect the Chinese car dealers will have the same issues. Porsche have great experience of fault resolution on EV’s due to the Taycan !

How is it any different for Porsche when they still after countless of issues keep going back to Germany for solutions? I would say the contrary, since Porsche had the experience with the Taycan, the level of issues and how they handled it on the Macan is not only bad for a premium brand, but worse than average brands. This is specifically referred to how they handled customer care and the shed incompetence from dealers across the globe.

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