4s vs GTS -what to order??

[Garylaw]

definitely...not only for the different suspension changes (which i hope are compatible with the other models) but mostly for the interior options. I would have gladly paid more some interior options if they had they had in the color i wanted.

The suspension configuration is supposed to be unique to the GTS - thats the whole point. Not sure what you mean by compatible with other models.

Yeh as i said by interior options its racetex with coloured stitching- which is a very expensive option and madness IMO for a lease. It starts pushing the price ot the GTS closer to the Turbo

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[MatC21]

There is no boot difference 4S vs GTS if both have the Bose specced. 540 vs 480 is only due to the Bose subwoofer. All you loose is 90% of the underfloor storage though (still fits emergency kit and an umbrella), it is not really properly usable space. But some might that find useful.

I also wouldn’t loose too much sleep on the range difference. This again comes mostly down to options. The stronger electric motor does not significantly use more battery. But GTS has some options which are standard and aren’t on the 4S - and they reduce range slightly. Foremost the 21 inch wheels. If you spec 21 on a 4S they end up very similar.

I personally would go for the 4S again as I prefer the looks and the higher suspension. Also not a fan of RaceTex anyway. 4S is also plenty fast while I felt the 4 was lacking a bit.

 

[Garylaw]

There is no boot difference 4S vs GTS if both have the Bose specced. 540 vs 480 is only due to the Bose subwoofer. All you loose is 90% of the underfloor storage though (still fits emergency kit and an umbrella), it is not really properly usable space. But some might that find useful.

I also wouldn’t loose too much sleep on the range difference. This again comes mostly down to options. The stronger electric motor does not significantly use more battery. But GTS has some options which are standard and aren’t on the 4S - and they reduce range slightly. Foremost the 21 inch wheels. If you spec 21 on a 4S they end up very similar.

I personally would go for the 4S again as I prefer the looks and the higher suspension. Also not a fan of RaceTex anyway. 4S is also plenty fast while I felt the 4 was lacking a bit.

Yeh agree, its still a tough decision im sure I won’t regret either of these cars. I did find it interesting that the expected range is slightly less on the GTS than the Turbo - when the number starts creeping under 200 miles it becomes a concern.

 

[MatC21]

@Garylaw Again, this is simply because of the larger wheels. Spec a Turbo with 21 inch and it will have less range than a GTS. 4S will have the same. Wheels are what makes the difference here, the motor has almost no impact.

The European configurator shows the range based on your exact configuration. Not sure if the US one das that as well. It is useful to understand the impact on options.

 

[Garylaw]

@Garylaw Again, this is simply because of the larger wheels. Spec a Turbo with 21 inch and it will have less range than a GTS. 4S will have the same. Wheels are what makes the difference here, the motor has almost no impact.

The European configurator shows the range based on your exact configuration. Not sure if the US one das that as well. It is useful to understand the impact on options.

Yep spot on there! Thanks! The GTS doesnt give 20s as an option, whereas the Turbo does - so that explains it. If i decide to go for the 4s I’ll be taking 21s anyway.

Like you said im not sure about the looks of GTS vs the 4s - in particular the front. More black plastic cladding in the GTS.

 

[MMR]

Yep spot on there! Thanks! The GTS doesnt give 20s as an option, whereas the Turbo does - so that explains it. If i decide to go for the 4s I’ll be taking 21s anyway.

Like you said im not sure about the looks of GTS vs the 4s - in particular the front. More black plastic cladding in the GTS.

The front doesn’t look as nice, but th rear looks a lot nicer imo

 

[Garylaw]

The front doesn’t look as nice, but th rear looks a lot nicer imo

Yep agree, I think now my biggest blocker for just going for the GTS are those wheels, they almost completely cover up the red brake callipers!!

 

[W1NGE]

Im torn between ordering a 4s or the new GTS. Much of the options I want on the 4s is standard on the GTS - Air Susp, Bose, PTV, Chrono, Leather 18 way seats. Meaning that the GTS monthly (via lease) is coming in about £80 more per month vs the 4s.
However 508 bhp in the 4s is plenty for me and kiddies in the back, i expect the range on the GTS will be noticeably less and Porsche quote a 476 litre boot versus the 540 litres for the others (albeit the sound system removes some of that) Also the standard GTS 21 design wheels are not to my taste and I love the 21 offroad wheels - which are not available on the GTS. Im not adding an extra for better looking 22s that will push up the price and impact range. Although admittedly I haven’t seen these new GTS wheels in the metal.

Overall my aim in getting a macan ev was to combine sporty driving with practically but im struggling to make a decision on this and need to order asap.

As its just been released there no test drive content online, only a walkaround by Autogefuehl so unsure about the drive or feel versus other models.

Any help & advice would be appreciated
Thanks

GTS all day long - generally the sweet spot of any Porsche model.

I've owned a Taycan 4S and GTS previously and the GTS was the better car to drive. Road test will confirm the same.

Luggage space differential is not maternal is due to the Bose subwoofer occupying space beneath the hidden floor cover - not a reason to discount. If you spec Bose (or Burmester) then you'll forgoe that space in the 4S in any case. As an aside the Bose didn't sound great in either the 4S or Turbo Macan EV loaners I had.

Residual on GTS should be better given the standard spec.

I was planning to switch my wife’s ICE Macan next year to EV but given the launch of the Cayenne EV I'll look there instead and seems a much better proposition. - space and standard spec.

 

[Garylaw]

GTS all day long - generally the sweet spot of any Porsche model.

I've owned a Taycan 4S and GTS previously and the GTS was the better car to drive. Road test will confirm the same.

Luggage space differential is not maternal is due to the Bose subwoofer occupying space beneath the hidden floor cover - not a reason to discount. If you spec Bose (or Burmester) then you'll forgoe that space in the 4S in any case. As an aside the Bose didn't sound great in either the 4S or Turbo Macan EV loaners I had.

Residual on GTS should be better given the standard spec.

I was planning to switch my wife’s ICE Macan next year to EV but given the launch of the Cayenne EV I'll look there instead and seems a much better proposition. - space and standard spec.

Thanks for the input.

Yeh ive heard the term sweet spot alot but Im diving into the finer details to make an informed decision- i would agree that the GTS will definitely a better ‘drivers car’ no doubt and that’s why its definitely in the mix and not the aero wheels or the front of the car - albeit subjective but walking up the car everyday the 4s looks more pleasing to me.

Interesting observation on Bose - I haven’t heard many complaints about it and upgrade to Burnmester is very pricey.

Depreciation & Residuals is thankfully n/a for me as its a lease. The lease company just bake it into their monthly price i guess.

Yeh the Cayenne looks like s decent proposal, but the Macan 4s/GTS will feel far more sporty to drive than that base Cayenne (price comparable) through curiosity i did build a couple in the configurator - but had to remind myself that if i wanted practically there are many cheaper & luxurious options out there.

 

[MatC21]

The Bose is fine and imo still worth the upgrade over the base version. It is not as good as it should be though, it used to be a bigger upgrade.

I also prefer the Macan over the Cayenne mostly because it is smaller in our tiny garages and parking lots in Europe. For the US I would probably go with a Cayenne. Pricewise the Cayenne is a better value proposition at the moment.

You won’t feel bored by the 4S. It is a more than capable car and super fun to drive. For the price of the GTS you can almost spec a turbo. I would only go for the GTS on the Macan Electric if you really dig the design differences and the RaceTex. But I agree that it is usually the sweet spot on something like the Taycan or the 911.

 

[Garylaw]

The Bose is fine and imo still worth the upgrade over the base version. It is not as good as it should be though, it used to be a bigger upgrade.

I also prefer the Macan over the Cayenne mostly because it is smaller in our tiny garages and parking lots in Europe. For the US I would probably go with a Cayenne. Pricewise the Cayenne is a better value proposition at the moment.

You won’t feel bored by the 4S. It is a more than capable car and super fun to drive. For the price of the GTS you can almost spec a turbo. I would only go for the GTS on the Macan Electric if you really dig the design differences and the RaceTex. But I agree that it is usually the sweet spot on something like the Taycan or the 911.

Yep spot on!

If im going for the 4s, this gives me the ability to drop a few options that would like to have but i didnt feel were deal breakers and save a few pounds such as: matrix headlights, PTV & 18 way seats. Im fine with the 8 way seats actually.

Id be keeping:

Air suspension
Leather seats
Sport sound
Pan roof
Bose
Sport Chrono
2D cameras
ACC
Rear side airbags
Privacy glass
Rear wiper

 

[W1NGE]

Thanks for the input.

Yeh ive heard the term sweet spot alot but Im diving into the finer details to make an informed decision- i would agree that the GTS will definitely a better ‘drivers car’ no doubt and that’s why its definitely in the mix and not the aero wheels or the front of the car - albeit subjective but walking up the car everyday the 4s looks more pleasing to me.

Interesting observation on Bose - I haven’t heard many complaints about it and upgrade to Burnmester is very pricey.

Depreciation & Residuals is thankfully n/a for me as its a lease. The lease company just bake it into their monthly price i guess.

Yeh the Cayenne looks like s decent proposal, but the Macan 4s/GTS will feel far more sporty to drive than that base Cayenne (price comparable) through curiosity i did build a couple in the configurator - but had to remind myself that if i wanted practically there are many cheaper & luxurious options out there.

Both the Macan and Cayenne EVs are overpriced IMHO. The competition now avalanching its way to these shores from China is testament to that and getting better all the time. Tech and pricing surpass all. Porsche and others need to watch out as they continue to struggle in the EV space.

Agree the standard wheel style is a bit meh on the GTS (better gloss black) but will be the more range efficient choice. The more air / space in the wheel surface the worse for range. I had RS Spyders which looked great but worst for range.

I’ve always had Bose apart from our Macan ICE which has the standard Sound Plus. If I’m honest the setup in the Macan sounds good and a surprise. No subwoofer but then I’m a Radio 4 guy so no real call for it. Suggest to try the Macan EV with both setups and judge for yourself - it may have been tweaked by now. Fools folly to spend beyond the Bose - it’s a car with road noise!

Cayenne EVs won’t ship until Q2 so time frame may be an issue. For normal driving my take is that I can forgo power more than I thought I might. I’ve been through the neck braking performance phase.

Looks wise I don’t see the downside of the GTS with the full Sports Design pack - front diffuser has a gloss black inlay to reduce the overall plastic effect. I think if you chose black as the overall colour then everything would look more homogeneous. Personal opinion but the overall styling of the Macan EV is not great - the rear is disappointing and designed by a wind tunnel.

First world problems and I’m sure you won’t be disappointed with either choice.

 

[PastaSource]

I was ready to place a 4S order when the GTS was announced, which has all the things I wanted on the 4S (for me, I also really wanted RWS to overcome, as much as possible, the large turning circle/school run/UK car park manoeuvring). I optioned out of Racetex, almost entirely due to having a three year old, and a wife who likes moisturiser (a Racetex/Alcantara killer) and ventilated seats, but I did option back in the Racetex steering wheel (only option was to add the one with carbon inlay, but I really love the Racetex wheel).

I also have a Spyder RS and the GTS a good one-car option if I ever want to move that on and live with one sporty daily (I'd prefer to keep the RS but having a young daughter means I never-ever get to drive it!). I prefer the looks (front and back), but that's possibly just because it might more unique compared to most other Macan EV's on the road.

I'd have likely preferred smaller wheels, but like others have mentioned, really dislike most of them (liked the off-road, but not an option), especially the standard anthracite 21's. 22 Spyders a cheaper option than on non GTS spec, especially considering they're already painted. Having driven a couple of Macans with 20, 21, 22, I didn't really notice enough difference (all on air), range aside of course. I think the 22 Spyders really make a difference to the look of the car.

I also liked the new colours, that along with the exterior sport package are now also options on the rest of the range (but weren't when I ordered).

For me, the main deciders ultimately were that the price difference when optioned equally was less than 2k, a little more sportiness (+exclusivity) with the GTS, and the fact that there was an allocation available right away for the GTS for Feb/March delivery (and they had no visibility on S slots/availability).

I don't think you'll go wrong either way.

 

[Garylaw]

I was ready to place a 4S order when the GTS was announced, which has all the things I wanted on the 4S (for me, I also really wanted RWS to overcome, as much as possible, the large turning circle/school run/UK car park manoeuvring). I optioned out of Racetex, almost entirely due to having a three year old, and a wife who likes moisturiser (a Racetex/Alcantara killer) and ventilated seats, but I did option back in the Racetex steering wheel (only option was to add the one with carbon inlay, but I really love the Racetex wheel).

I also have a Spyder RS and the GTS a good one-car option if I ever want to move that on and live with one sporty daily (I'd prefer to keep the RS but having a young daughter means I never-ever get to drive it!). I prefer the looks (front and back), but that's possibly just because it might more unique compared to most other Macan EV's on the road.

I'd have likely preferred smaller wheels, but like others have mentioned, really dislike most of them (liked the off-road, but not an option), especially the standard anthracite 21's. 22 Spyders a cheaper option than on non GTS spec, especially considering they're already painted. Having driven a couple of Macans with 20, 21, 22, I didn't really notice enough difference (all on air), range aside of course. I think the 22 Spyders really make a difference to the look of the car.

I also liked the new colours, that along with the exterior sport package are now also options on the rest of the range (but weren't when I ordered).

For me, the main deciders ultimately were that the price difference when optioned equally was less than 2k, a little more sportiness (+exclusivity) with the GTS, and the fact that there was an allocation available right away for the GTS for Feb/March delivery (and they had no visibility on S slots/availability).

I don't think you'll go wrong either way.

Really good input thank you.

Rear Axle Steering isnt standard on any models, do you mean power steering?

Yeh agree a small mucky dog & kids munching in the back, the Race-tex is a definite no.

This will be my first Porsche and Im really glad they introduced brighter colour options with the red or blue - i find the others a little bland but I get they are more classy. The lugano blue seems like the best IMO and will be not as common. I seen it on a 911 mind you but it really pops!

Yeh the 22 spyders look nice but budget is already pushed as it is and yeh range will be impacted - im already a tad concerned about range but admittedly trying to have my cake & eat it with this car.

Black gloss anywhere low down in a car shows scratches & stone chips quite considerably but yes the GTS will be quite unique (at least for a while). im thinking about getting ppf on the interior console to help keep that looking nice.

My delivery target is June - so im told that any model I order wont be an issue.

 

[CHP]

Everything said in this thread, only buy GTS if you want 22inch Spyder and exterior Sport Design package. Naked GTS doesn't look to good IMHO.

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