MY26 software update (week 36) for MY24-25

[krissrock]

damn...where did i get that from...
maybe it was my wife's car.
my bad

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[SandyHaus]

Got the software update three days ago (plus the new cargo area cover and passenger seatbelt stopper). I dropped it off at 7:30 am on the morning before U.S. Thanksgiving and was told it probably wouldn’t be ready until after the weekend. Then got a call at 1 pm the same day saying the care was ready. They said it was the smoothest update they’d done (possibly related to having experience from preceding Macan’s they’d updated).

All is well post-update EXCEPT the Homelink for my garages appeared to be wiped. I‘ve tried reprogramming multiple times without success. Anyone with a similar problem and a solution?

Sandy

 

[Brake]

Got the software update three days ago (plus the new cargo area cover and passenger seatbelt stopper). I dropped it off at 7:30 am on the morning before U.S. Thanksgiving and was told it probably wouldn’t be ready until after the weekend. Then got a call at 1 pm the same day saying the care was ready. They said it was the smoothest update they’d done (possibly related to having experience from preceding Macan’s they’d updated).

All is well post-update EXCEPT the Homelink for my garages appeared to be wiped. I‘ve tried reprogramming multiple times without success. Anyone with a similar problem and a solution?

Sandy

my homelink was ok after the update

 

[SandyHaus]

Spent the last hour going through all the reprogramming both in-car and at the openers. No luck. Will try the usual Macan EV fix-it trick of turning off and locking up the car and leaving it over night to see if it heals itself.

 

[MaccyT]

is it one of the "known bugs" that my Macan is not saving it's settings on the driving profiles?
When I set the spoiler to the up position it only stays there for 2 seconds, flaps down again and option get's disabled. Using the save button tells me it is saving it as a custom profile but the option gets ignored. If so, I will contact my dealership at Amsterdam, just picked the Macan up one week ago but I think I did not receive the latest update yet.

 

[Fly4ever]

...is there any car procuced from September onwards received the new software update yet?Me and some local friends got our cars with production dates after August, however when our SA entered our VIN in their system to check if any of our cars is a candidate for the update he got a negative answer,no campaign available for any of our cars.
So,is this campaign available also for recently produced cars or only the ones produced until mid summer are able to get it?
Many thanks.

 

[W1NGE]

...is there any car procuced from September onwards received the new software update yet?Me and some local friends got our cars with production dates after August, however when our SA entered our VIN in their system to check if any of our cars is a candidate for the update he got a negative answer,no campaign available for any of our cars.
So,is this campaign available also for recently produced cars or only the ones produced until mid summer are able to get it?
Many thanks.

The VIN determines what's applicable and in your case it's possible the car left the factory with any updates applied or indeed applied during PDI.

If neither are true then it could be down to timing and ultimately you will get added once your VIN falls in scope.

For now I wouldn't sweat it if you aren't plagued with issues.

 

[seabird]

Sorry but this is only when you charge to 80% … I drive 10 to 50 - 60%

If you're only driving a short distance and charging a half-cycle one time, then there's not even a conversation worth having. You are still saving less than five minutes on that charge.

if my battery is well pre conditioned I can get stops of 10 minutes instead of 15 to 20 minutes

Even at just 100kW, there is no mathematical possibility that this is true. You cannot physically save more than 3 minutes in the scenario you describe due to temperature differences.

If I drive up now with a cold soaked battery even after 120km’s it gets up to 7 - 9C very slow charging speed I can assure you … below 100kw compared to 270 …

A battery at 9C cannot charge 170kW faster because of preconditioning, which cannot raise the battery temperature above ~19C. The difference between 9C and 19C is not 170kW. Looking at the charging speed in the first 30 seconds is not telling you anything useful about total power delivery.

If you are stopping for 10 minutes 3 times instead of once for 25 minutes, the inefficiency is with the driver, not the car.

 

[Yves]

If you're only driving a short distance and charging a half-cycle one time, then there's not even a conversation worth having. You are still saving less than five minutes on that charge.

Even at just 100kW, there is no mathematical possibility that this is true. You cannot physically save more than 3 minutes in the scenario you describe due to temperature differences.

A battery at 9C cannot charge 170kW faster because of preconditioning, which cannot raise the battery temperature above ~19C. The difference between 9C and 19C is not 170kW. Looking at the charging speed in the first 30 seconds is not telling you anything useful about total power delivery.

If you are stopping for 10 minutes 3 times instead of once for 25 minutes, the inefficiency is with the driver, not the car.

Did a trip Antwerp - Amsterdam - Antwerp

going there on Apple Maps …
Charged 22kwh in 11 minutes (400kw charger)
That was over a 100km leg with battery at 16C and no pre conditioning it took ages and I decided to leave as I knew I would do my experiment way back, also due to the slow charging the battery did not heat up quickly and even tried to rig it by replugging the charger when it hit the Goldilocks zone but did not had success as it really needs 25C to go high power and was at 22C …

Going back home on PCM Nav, battery was being conditioned for a long time but optimal was reached
Charged 29 kWh in 7 minutes … (300kw charger)

So if I would have charged the same kWh on the first stop it would have been 14 minutes aka 2x

If I plan a trip with the App it always tries to optimize for 10 minutes as that will result in the fastest charge time and to be honest stopping every 2 to 3 hours is nicer as well …

Again when traveling with family it will not make a big difference as we stop longer. Driving with friends on a trip to get to our remote site, we typically stop like 3 to 4 times on an 1000km trip and then 10 minutes is ideal, maybe 3 stops as one is lunch and we have a longer mid leg …

But in this example Antwerp-Amsterdam-Antwerp I prefer a 5 minute stop each way to grab a coffee instead of wasting time …





So Yeah it does make a big difference and 10 minutes stops are great as they give 200km of range if you can get full charging power …

 

[Geebs55]

Just got the update last Friday (today is Monday). I received an print out of what was done. Lots. Took 3 hours.

So ... When driving on the weekend here is what was happening: the Android Auto would shutdown; the home screen would appear (with all the apps); then that would suddenly go black; the Android Auto symbol would appear; and my music would then continue playing.

This little interruption would only take 10 seconds or so and I was back listening again to my favorite song.

The annoying part is timing - this happens about twice per 10 miles (3 times per 20 km).

I thought I could "change its mind" so I switched to the radio. Within 3 or so minutes it went through the loop above and took me back to my favorite song on Android Auto.

I'm booked in for a check on the software Wednesday.

 

[MaccyT]

Did a trip Antwerp - Amsterdam - Antwerp

going there on Apple Maps …
Charged 22kwh in 11 minutes (400kw charger)
That was over a 100km leg with battery at 16C and no pre conditioning it took ages and I decided to leave as I knew I would do my experiment way back, also due to the slow charging the battery did not heat up quickly and even tried to rig it by replugging the charger when it hit the Goldilocks zone but did not had success as it really needs 25C to go high power and was at 22C …

Going back home on PCM Nav, battery was being conditioned for a long time but optimal was reached
Charged 29 kWh in 7 minutes … (300kw charger)

So if I would have charged the same kWh on the first stop it would have been 14 minutes aka 2x

If I plan a trip with the App it always tries to optimize for 10 minutes as that will result in the fastest charge time and to be honest stopping every 2 to 3 hours is nicer as well …

Again when traveling with family it will not make a big difference as we stop longer. Driving with friends on a trip to get to our remote site, we typically stop like 3 to 4 times on an 1000km trip and then 10 minutes is ideal, maybe 3 stops as one is lunch and we have a longer mid leg …

But in this example Antwerp-Amsterdam-Antwerp I prefer a 5 minute stop each way to grab a coffee instead of wasting time …





So Yeah it does make a big difference and 10 minutes stops are great as they give 200km of range if you can get full charging power …

Those charging speeds look horrible and even below my old E-tron which at that time was beast on fast charging.

I Went on a trip last week from (Netherlands) Alkmaar to Maastricht (250km single trip) and charged just before reaching the destination with around 12% left on the battery and battery temp around 18 degrees Celsius and hit 175kW straight for 7-8 minutes and I stopped charging after that because I had enough juice again. Charger was not capable of getting faster, I know for sure it was not the car that was limiting.

You need to charge as late as possible after a long trip and if it doesn't pre-condition try accelerating a couple of times and regen braking just before hitting the charger to heat up the battery a bit more.

Friend of mine went on a trip to Austria using Ionity (800V chargers) and hit the 270kW multiple charge sessions. (Both have a Turbo)

 

[Brake]

Got my battery from 6C to 21C in under 5 minutes, by driving 270kmh in Germany

 

[seabird]

Did a trip Antwerp - Amsterdam - Antwerp

going there on Apple Maps …
Charged 22kwh in 11 minutes (400kw charger)
That was over a 100km leg with battery at 16C and no pre conditioning it took ages ...

You're just wasting power, my guy. Burning almost 15% of the power you put in at the charging stop isn't saving you time or money just because the first number you see is higher. You only added net 19kWh on the charging stop, and even at 16C and a 120kW starting charge speed, the initial charging speed will close the gap at the charger in less than 3 minutes. So you just spent 90 seconds of extra charging just to avoid 90 seconds of delay waiting for the heat to catch up.

If you multiply all of those 3kW preheating cycles over the course of your trip, it basically adds up to the time saved...and the twice as frequent detours from the route probably means a net time loss.

Charged 29 kWh in 7 minutes … (300kw charger)

So if I would have charged the same kWh on the first stop it would have been 14 minutes aka 2x

No, not remotely true. 29kWh in 7 minutes is only possible (and barely, at that) from exactly 10 to 31 percent SOC. And without preconditioning, that would still only take 9 minutes. 10C is simply not enough of a temperature difference to save the kind of time you're talking about.

You're confusing the charging curve with preconditioning through wastefully short charging stops. You could artificially shorten your charging stops even further--why not 5 minutes so you can claim triple time savings?!--but even with the most cherry-picked use case, you're still at 3-4 minutes saved per charging stop. And stopping twice as often just to maximize the waste is a silly plan.

On a full standard stop (21-30 minutes), it's a maximum 10% benefit. Overall data is about a 5% difference on the whole. Contriving use cases where 3 minutes is "big savings" just won't change that.

 

[Yves]

You're just wasting power, my guy. Burning almost 15% of the power you put in at the charging stop isn't saving you time or money just because the first number you see is higher. You only added net 19kWh on the charging stop, and even at 16C and a 120kW starting charge speed, the initial charging speed will close the gap at the charger in less than 3 minutes. So you just spent 90 seconds of extra charging just to avoid 90 seconds of delay waiting for the heat to catch up.

If you multiply all of those 3kW preheating cycles over the course of your trip, it basically adds up to the time saved...and the twice as frequent detours from the route probably means a net time loss.

No, not remotely true. 29kWh in 7 minutes is only possible (and barely, at that) from exactly 10 to 31 percent SOC. And without preconditioning, that would still only take 9 minutes. 10C is simply not enough of a temperature difference to save the kind of time you're talking about.

You're confusing the charging curve with preconditioning through wastefully short charging stops. You could artificially shorten your charging stops even further--why not 5 minutes so you can claim triple time savings?!--but even with the most cherry-picked use case, you're still at 3-4 minutes saved per charging stop. And stopping twice as often just to maximize the waste is a silly plan.

On a full standard stop (21-30 minutes), it's a maximum 10% benefit. Overall data is about a 5% difference on the whole. Contriving use cases where 3 minutes is "big savings" just won't change that.

-That 3kw is only one time … battery stays warm when driving
- that 7 minutes was from 12 to 43% not 10 to 31
- I gave you real live charging times 11 minutes for 22kwh vs 7minutes for 29kwh
- When traveling with family it does not matter indeed
- when traveling with friends, when driving ICE we stop 10 minutes, so we tend to do the same
- PCM will also optimize for 10 minutes stops, this is the cars optimal travel speed
- as mentioned to 80% the difference becomes less as both charging curves meet at 2/3
- the new software did not change any of this in my case

 

[Pepppie]

is it one of the "known bugs" that my Macan is not saving it's settings on the driving profiles?
When I set the spoiler to the up position it only stays there for 2 seconds, flaps down again and option get's disabled. Using the save button tells me it is saving it as a custom profile but the option gets ignored. If so, I will contact my dealership at Amsterdam, just picked the Macan up one week ago but I think I did not receive the latest update yet.

In NORMAL-modes he saves the settings, in SPORT en SPORT PLUS he doesn't.. That was the problem in 28.11 and in 28.13 it still exists.

And about the update of Innodrive in 28.13; got all the issues back again.. First it started with the error that the assisting systems stopped working during driving. This morning I got the message that it wasn't possible to activate the assisting systems at all..

Already sent an email to the dealer again.. Will be the 6th time since August 22 it will go back!

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