Macan EV sales seem strong (according to Porsche press release)

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A recent Wired opinion piece discussing cheaper EVs includes:

... You can currently bag a three-year-old Porsche Taycan, with its 416 miles of range, for less than half what it cost new. Currently, there are 930 used Taycans for sale in the US on Auto Trader, with prices ranging from just $44,000 when a base model costs at least $100,000 new. A Taycan with just 11,000 miles on the clock can be had for $47,000.

It’s an opinion piece so of course some of it needs to be taken with a grain of salt. These Autotrader numbers are a bit sketchy to me - is 930 a big number or a small number? If I run the same search for Cayenne there are 3,521. Or Panamera has 1,310. There are 1,914 911s less than four years old on Autotrader.

Also, the majority of cars EV or ICE lose half their value after 3-4 years. This is not new. EVs are a bit worse in this regard, of course, but an EV going for half of its new value after three years is hardly a doom and gloom fire sale when a similar ICE still loses 45% of its value in the same time.

Unless the car is truly special, nobody is buying a car and remotely expecting it to maintain its value, even a $100k car. Most residuals are in the 52-55% range.

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[FutureMacanOwner]

Those are super low prices. But I'd be terrified of owning one that's out of warranty for too long. Looks like most of the CPOs I've seen start in the mid 50s. Still a great deal to get a 2021 Taycan with an MSRP of $90k - $130k for mid $50k range. (and with 2 years of extended warranty)

 

[robrain]

EVs are a bit worse in this regard, of course, but an EV going for half of its new value after three years is hardly a doom and gloom fire sale when a similar ICE still loses 45% of its value in the same time.

Unless the car is truly special, nobody is buying a car and remotely expecting it to maintain its value, even a $100k car. Most residuals are in the 52-55% range.

I like to leave my tinfoil hat in the dark recesses of the wardrobe of my teenage years, but the comments section of YouTube EV -related videos always makes me think that "Big Oil", or "Big ICE" is paying bunches of people to say a variation of "Ha! It'll be worth 5 dollars in three years and I'll buy it then", or "LOL! Only an idiot buys a new EV".

It used to be the poor misguided souls would spout nonsense like "What happens when you drive off with the charger plugged in, eh?" (nothing, what about when you drive off with the fuel nozzle still in the filler, knucklehead?) and similar talking points, but now they are really really concerned we're going to die at the claws of the depreciation dragon.

 

[daveo4EV]

i'm told at cars/coffee when I show up with my Macan EV:

• only idiots would buy a Macan EV - and yet they don't seem to think they are insulting me personally
• EV's don't work - cause I didn't actually drive more than 100 miles to get there
• depreciation is 80% with in 3 months - or more
• they are not selling - mine is the only one
• they will not sell - dealers are storing all Macan EV's ever made
• no one wants one - again I'm an idiot
• you're a govt. agent spreading propaganda to force me to buy an EV - but I can afford a MacanEV
• I'm the only person to have bought one - see idiot above.
• range is lie - they can only really do about 80 miles
• you'll freeze to death if you get stuck in a traffic grid lock during winter - battery depletes at an accelerated rate when you're not moving
• you lose so much range in traffic jams that you may not make it to your destination - see freezing to death above
• fast charging kills the battery after about 5-10 times - so you can't really road trip them - the original 80 miles range will become 2 miles
• they can't drive a car that doesn't make noise - exhaust note compensates for soooo many things
• there are no fast chargers - it's a myth
• EV's use more oil/gas to make electricity than just using the gas - I can' even begin…
• it's not a good car - it does in fact suck
• it doesn't/can't handle well - see that it sucks above
• regenerative braking accelerates brake wear - it has to work that way
• EV maintenance is a nightmare with lots more to maintain - one moving part apparently is more trouble
• my EV battery will be at 60% max capacity in about 2 days of use - yeah
• it costs well over $100k to replace the battery when it fails outside of warranty - cause you do this every 2-3 weeks
• EV's have a lot of reliablity problems - mine broke down 3 times on the drive here
• when the apocalypse comes I won't be able to charge my EV but there will be plenty of gasoline for their "escape" - cause you don't need electricity to run society or gas refineries
• what happens if you run out of battery? (apparently tow trucks don't exist) - you just leave on the side of the road and abandon it because it's now never going to be recovered
• EV's cause brain cancer due to EMF - this is a fact and why so many people are stupid - cause they rode in an EV once…

{sigh}

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