MY26 software update (week 36) for MY24-25

[seabird]

130kw is 130kw on 800v or 400v, if you do not understand that then I cannot help you.

That's not relevant to anything.

I just proven that you are clearly wrong with the some minutes claim.

Jesus. No, you haven't. You have proven that charging at twice the speed takes half the time. No one is arguing otherwise.

The issue is that preconditioning cannot double your charging speed at any temperature. I don't know how many times you need to hear it to believe it.

And for 3th time, my test was on THE SAME DAY with and without pre conditioning …

Does not matter. You are not getting 270kW by preconditioning and losing half of that due to a 10 degree temperature difference. There are other things going on to cause that gap.

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[Yves]

That's not relevant to anything.

Jesus. No, you haven't. You have proven that charging at twice the speed takes half the time. No one is arguing otherwise.

The issue is that preconditioning cannot double your charging speed at any temperature. I don't know how many times you need to hear it to believe it.

Does not matter. You are not getting 270kW by preconditioning and losing half of that due to a 10 degree temperature difference. There are other things going on to cause that gap.

OK, I will start a new threat on this, but thanks for confirming that double the charging speed will halve the charging time.

I never said that pre conditioning would make the car CHARGE FASTER at the same battery temperature, that would be utterly stupid.

The whole purpose of pre conditioning is to take the battery temperature in the Goldilocks zone so that it in my case, and other users have the same experiences, almost halve the charging time.
(It halves when charging to 50% it still is considerably faster to 80% the graph shows this clearly)

 

[MaccyT]

Mine often sounds like it's blowing like crazy but it's rarely coming from the dash vents. It's inside somewhere, plus the 2nd row vents. Check your 2nd row vents to make sure they're turned off. Once I do that the tornado sound often goes away. Although sometimes I still get it even if the front fan (either side) is on, even just on 1.

Most maddening climate system I've ever had in a car.

Tried with the rear off as well but it doesn’t matter in my case. The only option is to use the ECO PLUS or something, than the sound disapears but also the temperature drops in the cabin. I’ll let you know as soon as mine goes back to the dealer if they find anything.

 

[seabird]

The whole purpose of pre conditioning is to take the battery temperature in the Goldilocks zone so that it in my case, and other users have the same experiences, almost halve the charging time.

Neither your experience nor anyone else's halves the charging time. This is at least the 20th time you have made this claim with zero evidence and completely irrelevant references to state of charge and voltage, instead of the only thing that preconditioning changes: temperature.

It would take a 40C temperature difference to halve charging time. No preconditioning cycle can do that. Period.

 

[MatC21]

Tried with the rear off as well but it doesn’t matter in my case. The only option is to use the ECO PLUS or something, than the sound disapears but also the temperature drops in the cabin. I’ll let you know as soon as mine goes back to the dealer if they find anything.

I had this on the weekend and what helped was simply closing the vent to the left of the driver display physically.

 

[TomekGnomek]

Right, because that would be beyond the capabilities of the car.

The charging curve you linked shows it should do over 200kw at 50% SoC so

 

[MatC21]

Well, don't expect to achieve the same points along the curve if you just plug in at a certain percentage. The curve assumes a perfectly heated battery and includes already a ramp up. If you plug in at 50% the battery/charger has to ramp up first so you will most likely never hit 200kw. I did occasionally get very close though.
The curve is also showing absolutely perfect conditions - you rarely have that in practice.
One day I got 243 kw at 33% (starting at 15% and 270kw) and another day only ~200 kw at 30% plugging in at ~29%. Same car and exactly same charger (Porsche charging lounge, no other cars present).

 

[FrostyFjord]

Bit to late anyway the thread is already 33 pages, and there is nothing new to report anymore, all was said in the first 10 pages …
I can summarize them for you:
- some claim to have better range, others have not seen any difference (me included)
- some claim the air suspension is smoother better, can’t say I feel any difference
- should have eliminated all the weird errors, for me they are less but new ones popped up, like cannot activate cruise control bonnet or door is open ?! Went away. Others have again the orange warnings after the update
- some experienced car play issue wireless was broken, probably an OTA after the update at the dealer that changed password requirements hotspot, I solved it with new password, others had to do a full reset of the PCM
- some say the assistance like ACC and lane assist are better, I see/feel no difference …
- no change in charging curve or pre conditioning … so yeah that discussion came from that one

All in all a disappointing update that mainly tries to correct all the bugs and no new “wow” features … like Digital carkey for those who have comfort access …

Exactly. It very much feels this update mainly just updated the error thresholds and some other parameters in the internal configuration. There is a message buried in this thread indicating that. Someone was watching while the update happened at the dealer if I remember correctly.

I guess nobody now knows if there will be a real feature update to 24-25 owners later.

 

[TomekGnomek]

Well, don't expect to achieve the same points along the curve if you just plug in at a certain percentage. The curve assumes a perfectly heated battery and includes already a ramp up. If you plug in at 50% the battery/charger has to ramp up first so you will most likely never hit 200kw. I did occasionally get very close though.
The curve is also showing absolutely perfect conditions - you rarely have that in practice.
One day I got 243 kw at 33% (starting at 15% and 270kw) and another day only ~200 kw at 30% plugging in at ~29%. Same car and exactly same charger (Porsche charging lounge, no other cars present).

You are correct but I would take the above mentioned curve with a grain of salt - I don't recall having 200kw+ at 50% SoC even in optimal conditions (mild weather and starting the process from 15% SoC).

 

[MatC21]

Yeah, I also never saw that. But the car is definitely capable of charging 10 - 80% in 21 minutes, this is not just a marketing lie.
E.g. see this video 2025 Porsche Macan EV 10%-80% Charging Test! | Fastest EV We Have Tested!
I personally never fully charged 10 - 80% but I got very close.

 

[TomekGnomek]

Yeah, I also never saw that. But the car is definitely capable of charging 10 - 80% in 21 minutes, this is not just a marketing lie.

That's true but rarely in winter.

 

[MatC21]

On my last trip around 5 degrees with heavy rain I charged ~64 kWh in 21 Min, starting at 15% SoC. This is quite close though (64 is ~67% of usable capacity).

 

[TomekGnomek]

On my last trip around 5 degrees with heavy rain I charged ~64 kWh in 21 Min, starting at 15% SoC. This is quite close though (64 is ~67% of usable capacity).

What charger, Porsche? I noticed there are differences for example between Ionity and Aral Pulse so it may add to my experience.

 

[MatC21]

That was at a Porsche Charging Lounge indeed. I usually have good results with Ionity as well. I try to avoid most other chargers as they usually split if two people charge from the same station. At most Ionity and all Porsche chargers that can not happen.

 

[seabird]

The charging curve you linked shows it should do over 200kw at 50% SoC so

I don't follow. The curve shows that between 49 and 51 percent, the maximum charging of the car is 205 to 199kW. Nothing about that says it "should do over 200kW".

I regularly get 190-195kW at 50% on a 350kW charger. What's the issue?

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