Confirmed: 3.5% Tariff on all new Porsche products through the end of 2025.

[dbsb3233]

That's true, but it's not complete. Those tariffs are partly in response to the US import tariff of 25% on pickups and light duty trucks, which is the largest segment of car sales in the US. That 25% tariff (which has also existed for years) has kept the EU makers out of that market even though it would otherwise be profitable.

Good point. Yes, tariffs are always a complicated subject because they're often applied to unrelated items since particular products are often stronger one way than the other. One country may not import much XXX from the other so they choose YYY as retaliation.

The light truck tariff you mention goes all the way back to LBJ and was knows as the "Chicken Tax".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax

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[jwatte]

...I released the car officially and won't be buying it. The car isn't worth $111k, but it's DEFINITELY not worth $115k.

Every price is negotiable. The dealer may not want to negotiate, but they're also paying interest on cars on the lot. Call 'em back in a few and see if they're ready to let it go at $111k.

 

[Station]

Every price is negotiable. The dealer may not want to negotiate, but they're also paying interest on cars on the lot. Call 'em back in a few and see if they're ready to let it go at $111k.

Our agreed upon deal was already 4% under. They won't go -7.5%.

I've already moved on - just passing along the Porsche N.A. info.

 

[Wivenhoe]

At one time Trump was citing the EU & UK for imposing 20% tax on US cars as being unfair. He was conveniently ignoring that is VAT and applies to all new cars sold, irrespective of whether they are manufactured in country or imported so a level playing field

 

[Philip_1]

Finally the Tariff is to be paid by the end user (always was).. The American citizen..Same for all EU and Chinese products, if you look around your place...80% of consumables are made in China..So.. you can stay away from EU cars..but how to stay away from the 80% or more of products which are made in China! The way it is implemented, Tariffs = punishment for American consumer/citizen.

 

[Station]

I'm the OP.

Well, it turns out that my Macan 4S, which is due mid-August, which is on a boat, does not have a tariff attached to it. The price is the same as when I built it months ago. The dealer is now able to print out the Monroney (window sticker) that the car has on it and it's the agreed upon price.

Also, when I went to the Porsche configurator and plugged in my exact build code as if I were ordering a 2nd identical car, my car pops up as (base MSRP before equipment) $3,000 more than when I configured it a month ago. (I guess THAT is how Porsche is packing in the tariff, rather than a line item on the window sticker).

(For US buyers, let's keep in mind that a 3.5% tariff is not on the fully configured retail price. For example my car is $111k. The tariff is not on that figure but rather somewhere around invoice or similar)

Additionally with the $7,500 going away a few weeks after my car delivers, I should probably take delivery. I'm instantly in an equity position. (kidding, we are never in an equity position, but at least I'm not as upside down as some will be who buys a Macan EV and will be assuming tariffs and no US federal green credit)

(still concerned with the 35 threads on this site with people and their "rattles")

 

[nadkoolio]

Well, it turns out that my Macan 4S, which is due mid-August, which is on a boat, does not have a tariff attached to it. The price is the same as when I built it months ago. The dealer is now able to print out the Monroney (window sticker) that the car has on it and it's the agreed upon price.

Interesting as my dealership said that any car that has yet to be delivered would see a price increase.

My understanding is the dealer invoice happens just before the car leaves the port for the dealership. At that point the price is finalized but conceivably until then they could at any time make a new sticker with an increased price.

I hope my dealership wrong and there's a different cutoff that'll price protect orders like yours and others.

Once your car leaves port we'll know for sure so I'm very curious how it plays out. Please keep us updated.

 

[Station]

Interesting as my dealership said that any car that has yet to be delivered would see a price increase.

My understanding is the dealer invoice happens just before the car leaves the port for the dealership. At that point the price is finalized but conceivably until then they could at any time make a new sticker with an increased price.

I hope my dealership wrong and there's a different cutoff that'll price protect orders like yours and others.

Once your car leaves port we'll know for sure so I'm very curious how it plays out. Please keep us updated.

which brings up an interesting consideration. When you build your Porsche using the configurator and then go to a dealer and place your order, which sometimes involves a deposit, but not always like in my case… Isn't there some sort of a contract for that price? Clearly we haven't signed on the dotted line and cleared the deal, but it makes more sense that Porsche would recognize the agreed-upon price at the point of order, when you were assigned the car and an order number, and you start getting all these emails from Porsche showing the status of your build all along the way.

Yes, I'm sure there's some language in the find print that allows for price adjustments, but I would think that Porsche factory, who's been eating tariffs for the past few months, would give the final word on tariffs that reflect cars which have yet to be ordered like I mentioned above.

i'll keep this for him posted on my findings as I get closer. But if my dealership is wrong and I do have tariffs on my car, that's gonna be unfortunate for them. And keep in mind I'm not just talking to my sales guy. My conversations involved the general manager of the entire dealership as well as the sales manager.
I would hope they have some solid knowledge about how this weird world is working going forward.

 

[dbsb3233]

I don't know if Porsche does it differently, but as a general rule all an order deposit really does is reserve a car for you should you decide to buy it when it comes in, not legally lock in the price. If the market moves significantly in between, they might charge more. Or the buyer might negotiate a better deal. It's basically just a new car that comes into the dealership to sell like any other, but you get first shot at it.

 

[Station]

I don't know if Porsche does it differently, but as a general rule all an order deposit really does is reserve a car for you should you decide to buy it when it comes in, not legally lock in the price. If the market moves significantly in between, they might charge more. Or the buyer might negotiate a better deal. It's basically just a new car that comes into the dealership to sell like any other, but you get first shot at it.

Agreed,

But as good business practice, Porsche has been absorbing tariffs for a few months now. If I were in charge of Porsche and was forced to finally tariff my customers, I would choose to begin those surcharges to hit customers who had YET to order, not people with their orders on a boat.

...I'm going to call a few local dealers and try to get some consistency on the matter and present my findings to my dealership - and possibly have them put the price of my mid-august delivery in writing.

I'll keep the forum apprised on my discoveries.

 

[jwatte]

Isn't there some sort of a contract for that price?

Most states in the US (certainly California) make all deposits fully refundable. Additionally, you have not made an agreement to purchase the vehicle until you sign the final paperwork and drive it off the lot. (E g, even if you signed the dotted line, but they cannot actually deliver the car in a way you accept and drive it off, it's not a final purchase.)

This, in turn, means that dealers are skeptical about custom orders -- the buyer can back out at any time, at no cost to you, and now the dealer is left with a poop brown car with orange trim or something.

This also means that the price is *really* set when the car actually arrives, and the power dynamic of "oh, more unexpected costs" versus "oh, I guess I won't buy this car" doesn't resolve until that time. Sucks for those of us who hate negotiations and uncertainty ...

 

[chaz]

This also means that the price is *really* set when the car actually arrives, and the power dynamic of "oh, more unexpected costs" versus "oh, I guess I won't buy this car" doesn't resolve until that time. Sucks for those of us who hate negotiations and uncertainty ...

Oh cool I was wondering if I had any leg to stand on for negotiations when it arrives, so that's good to know. Not that I won't fold like a cheap suit, but he did say my config was "unique" (Blackberry interior?) and was worried if tariffs hit and I let it go, he'd have trouble selling it. I had initially signed the paper work for a lease, but then changed my mind a week later and decided to just buy it. SA said no problem, as that part gets decided once it arrives.

Curious if the fact the 2026 models are right around the corner gives any leverage.

@Station mine's on a boat too and it's getting close!

 

[Fun TC Driving]

Add’l tariffs and or annual inflation due to typical mext model year raising 2026 prices would not surprise any of us, e.g., sorry but doubt you have any leverage — especially with some dealers openly advertising “buy our current stock and avoid tariffs.”

Hope your car when it arrives is the dream you imagined, and that you have ZERO issues with it.

 

[chaz]

Add’l tariffs and or annual inflation due to typical mext model year raising 2026 prices would not surprise any of us, e.g., sorry but doubt you have any leverage — especially with some dealers openly advertising “buy our current stock and avoid tariffs.”

Hope your car when it arrives is the dream you imagined, and that you have ZERO issues with it.

Yeah I'd be more than happy to pay MSRP, since I've looked around and there's nothing on the lots in a 100 mile radius that is configured the way I have mine!

 

[jwatte]

Not that I won't fold like a cheap suit

Me too, my friend. Me too :-D

(I found a broker on Reddit who was good. Will use him, or someone like him, next time, for sure! Horizon Auto.)

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