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Regen is complicated. From what I understand it regains as little as 10% or as much as 80%. Traffic conditions, speed, and driving style matter. Gently applying the brake for a long period captures more than pressing firmly for a short period (assuming you are in a car that has regeneration controlled by brakes, the majority).

You always lose something, which is why many cars default to coasting instead of full one pedal driving. City driving regen where you’re repeatedly accelerating from a stop to speed limit and mostly slowing for cars in front or street lights, is different from long trip driving, where you’re interested in the expenditure of excess energy caused by elevation gain and how much of that is recovered on the downhill.

Downhill trips are some of the most efficient. Gentle regen for long stretches. I have some data from skiing trips that suggests my downhill regen is about 75% on my iX. Up the canyon 30 miles, ski a few hours, down the canyon.

Granted this is napkin math and getting into the weeds, but here is one such trip, a 30 miles per kWh leg where I used 22kwh going up and 5.1 coming home, and the car averaged 2.4 miles per kWh on a regular trip the same day.

The uphill/downhill overall cost me about 2.1kwh more than if it had been level. Thats not a wash but not terrible. The thing is that for most long trips you don’t start and end at the same elevation unless you include the round trip done later.


ValueEstimate
Uphill energy total22.0 kWh
Uphill flat-ground equivalent~12.5 kWh
Elevation energy cost~9.5 kWh
Downhill trip used5.1 kWh
Downhill flat-ground equivalent~12.5 kWh
Energy recovered via regen~7.4 kWh
Regen efficiency~78%

Math seems relatively close since the battery percentage went up by 6 and something % on the way down the canyon on a 111kwh battery, though if I work it out based on that it could be as low as 65% efficiency.
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Most of the articles I read say regen is about 70-80% efficient. But as you say, it's complicated. And varies quite a bit from one manufacturer to another on how they implement it.

So far in the Macan, my most efficient long road trip legs are when I'm gaining and then losing 6000' of elevation (thus lots of regen use on the way down). I get much better efficiency driving from home north of Denver (4900') up through the Eisenhower Tunnel (11000') and on to Grand Junction (4600') than I do further west on I-70 into Utah where it's flatter (but not flat). Or than I did driving north from Las Vegas to Bishop CA. The Utah speed limit is 80 MPH so it makes sense that that mileage is worse. But the NV speed limit was 70, actually lower than most of the CO drive. I saw similar results driving the Mach-E on dozens of long road trips. The gentle climb up to 11000' and back down has consistently been one of my most efficient legs. Which seems to contradict the "regen isn't very efficient" thought.

But again, complicated. I've also tested regen on and off in the Macan and it's made no discernible difference in efficiency. But I use cruise control most of the time on road trips. I don't even know if the regen setting applies when CC is on. Seems like it probably wouldn't, since the car is doing all speed control itself at that point anyway.

Just a few data points... Driving from home (Denver) to Vegas on 7/28, the leg thru CO with +/- 6000' elevation change was my far the best mileage. But also lower speed, which is always the #1 factor. Still though.

Leg 1: 3.4 MPK, 264 mi, 63 MPH avg, lots of regen use (up/down)
Leg 2: 2.4 MPK, 171 mi, 74 MPH avg, less up/down
Leg 3: 2.6 MPK, 105 mi, 76 MPH avg, less up/down
Leg 4: 2.8 MPK, 142 mi, 74 MPH avg, -3000' net elevation
 
 







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